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John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman

by liebermanlives, Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:20:49 PM EST

John Lewis, one of the early founders of the civil rights movement has come out and STRONGLY endorsed Joe Lieberman to return to the Senate. Mr. Lewis said in a statement, (paraphraising), Joe Lieberman could have stayed in Connecticut, but he decided to come south and help us in the civil rights movement. He is a giant in that, and other areas, and I support him 100%. Joe is a great friend of mine.

So if people like John Lewis, who strongly disagrees with the war, can put that aside and strongly support Senator Lieberman, how come so many of the close minded lefty blogs can't bring themselves to do the same??

Tags: Joe Lieberman, John Lewis, election 2006. (all tags)

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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Saying the left is "close minded" only reaffirms how close-minded you are.

It's not JUST the war that has the people of CT pissed at Lieberman. It's the constant cover he gives to the Bush administration and the contempt he has for Democratic voters.

It's awfully patronizing of him to say that he thinks not enough CT Dem voters will vote in August and therefore he's going to run as an Indy.

That alone, speaks volumes about the kind of guy Lieberman is. Read: Douchebag.

by dayspring on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:28:49 PM EST

Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (1.00 / 1)

Oh, and calling someone a douchebag shows that you are open minded. Don't make me laugh. Now if you don't mind, I have some second graders to talk to, which is on a higher plain than you are.

by liebermanlives on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:31:46 PM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (2.00 / 2)

You set the tone of your discourse with your one way conversational diaries where you spout shit but never bother to engage in prolonged discussion about any point. You just put a hit and run diary taunting Lieberman opponents, occasionally you will put in a rejoinder or two. But I have rarely seen you debate in honesty with anyone about Lieberman. As I said, your diaries set the confrontational tone. So don't be surprised when you get namecalled.

by Pravin on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:46:56 PM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (3.00 / 1)

Tell me you can sit there and honestly say that Lieberman choosing to run as an Indy when he loses the primary instead of accepting the will of the voters isn't a prime example of douchebaggery.

by dayspring on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 07:03:14 PM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (3.00 / 2)

You have had plenty of opportunities to reply to our issues. You have been posting the same crap on this blog for a long time and we have given you reasons why we opposed Lieberman. Now if you wanted to refute us on a point by point basis when we bring these up , fine. But you ignore that, and just churn out another diary, asking why we dont support your boy. Go back and read the freaking diaries that exist right now if you are really interested in knowing why we oppose Lieberman.

As far as John Lewis, it's the same reason Boxer is supporting lieberman. Incubment solidarity. Plus Lieberman did support civil rights in the past and may have given his votes for some issues back in the day. Lewis is a loyal guy, unlike Lieberman and Lewis is probably bound by this loyalty to old friends.

by Pravin on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:44:11 PM EST

The Democrats of Connecticut... (3.00 / 2)

...should vote for whichever candidate will better represent them.

If a Connecticut Democrat based on the war alone concludes that Lamont can better represent him, fine.

But there are lots of reasons to oppose Lieberman, including his vote for Alberto Gonzales to be Attorney General.

Also, Lieberman's vote for cloture on the Bankruptcy Bill.

by EricJaffa on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:45:25 PM EST

Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

It's only all about the war to you, Joe, and a media who can't figure out how to weave complex narratives.

by Lucas O'Connor on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 05:49:35 PM EST

This disappoints me... (none / 0)

as I respect and like John Lewis a lot, but it matters not.

tell me though did he support Lieberman's run as an indie?

I can't imagine that.

-C.

by neutron on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 08:17:26 PM EST

Hey... (3.00 / 1)

Did someone overturn your rock to bring you crawling back out?

Actually, this is an example of one of the more annoying aspects of the present Democratic Party I encoun ter all the time. The old "I was afreedom rider 40 years ago, so it doesn't matter what I do today!" mentality. For example, Joe has been pretty hostile to affirmative action over the years, and just loves him some school vouncher, which effectively screws over poor urban youth (mostly African-American).

But hey, 40 years ago he went to a rally for Dr. king, so that makes everything all right! Well, no...no it doesn't. It's what you do now that matters.

Or to put it another way, Charleton Heston was a heavy player in the early civil rights movement. Would you like him up in the Senate?

by ElitistJohn on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 09:09:08 PM EST

Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

I will believe that there are "close minded lefty blogs" if you can point to any who utterly refuse to support Lieberman if he wins the primary.

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

by Anthony de Jesus on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 09:35:21 PM EST

Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Quite frankly, I would not support Lieberman if he wins the primary. If he agreed to abide by the primary, maybe i would hav beeen indifferent. But if he wins the primary, I will not give a shit if he loses. That will teach the other dems that even without the "angry left" their strategy of being Repub Lite could backfire. So right now, I am against Lieberman all the way. The time to compromise was a few months ago.

by Pravin on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 10:39:56 PM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Are you saying that if you lived in Connecticut you would vote for his opponent, or are you saying that you would merely stay home?

Things You Don't Talk About in Polite Company: Religion, Politics, the Occasional Intersection of Both

by Anthony de Jesus on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 11:44:14 PM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

You don't vote for his opponent, or stay home. You "write-in" Ned Lamont's name and vote straight Dem on down the rest of the ballot. If Joe won't follow the wishes of the primary voters, why should they?

by William Domingo on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 01:44:55 AM EST
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Good answer (none / 0)

I would vote 3rd party. I don't disagree Lieberman should put principle above party. But if you do that, you gotta make sure those principles are well thought out and benefit the country. We know his principes that deviate from the party base have been disastrous. So he must go. Lieberman getting elected will only embolden the establishment and put a damper on the progressive netroots movement. And he should respect me when I do the same.

If I were a CT voter, I would not vote for Lieberman under any circumstances considering his recent behavior. If Lieberman wins the primary and loses the general election, the party establishment's bullshit will be plain for even the non political citizens to see. It might hurt the party in CT, but it will help the party nationwide.

by Pravin on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 04:44:49 AM EST
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So he must go. (none / 0)

Lieberman must go because he is a "Bush enabler" pure and simple. All Bush "enablers" must go, whether they are Republicans or Democrats.

Lieberman's Real Problem

No great mystery enshrouds the challenge to Lieberman, nor is the campaign of his challenger, Ned Lamont, a jihad of crazed nit-pickers. Lieberman has simply and rightly been caught up in the fundamental dynamics of Politics 2006, in which Democrats are doing their damnedest to unseat all the president's enablers in this year's elections. As well, Lieberman's broader politics are at odds with those of his fellow Northeastern Democrats.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2006/07/11/AR2006071101204. html?nav=hcmodule

by William Domingo on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 05:24:48 PM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Well, I see nothing has really changed here in MyDD. I thought on my extended leave from this website would have made some people grow up around here, but I still find the most disgusting, vile, ugly crap that infestate other websites that don't like Joe. I should have known better I suppose.
I guess the dogs around here really can't change their spots. Once a Lieberman hater, always a Lieberman hater. You got nothing else except that hatred. Kos, Bowers, and the rest of you continue the daily "swiftboat" attacks that you condemned when it happens to people like John Kerry back in 2004.
Maybe David Brooks was right. No, scrap the maybe, David Brooks was right!!!! You Democrats don't tolerate dissent, are willing to eat your own, and, like the republicans, have no tolerence for people you aren't you. The Jihad movement is alive and well in the Democratic party.

by liebermanlives on Tue Jul 11, 2006 at 10:29:20 PM EST

Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Let me make something clear to you.

I had no dog in this fight for several months. I appreciated Lieberman's environmental record and would not have minded seeing him re-elected.

However, it is his lack of commitment to the democratic party, not it's ideals, THE PARTY, that has driven me from him. First he refused to commit to stay in the primary, then he took out the papers to run as an independent. Arlen Specter was held 51-49 in his primary last cycle but he never threated to run as an independent. It was not the resolve Liberman lacks, it's the pride.

I am a pround young democrat in TX-22. It's easy to get heckled and ridiculed for my beliefs but Joe has a nice blue area to say how pround he is of his party and to say some nice things about his leadership from time to time rather than just saying they are wrong.

It is because Joe would not commit to his party, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, it why I am not supporting him.

This has nothing to do with the issues for me. For me it's who is pround to be a democrat, and willing to commit. If Joe is worried about it being a hot day in August, then he needs to do a better job motivating his troops. It is a weak excuse.

by Trowaman on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 01:42:33 AM EST
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Re: John Lewis endorses Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Trolling is when you make hit and run statements and dont bother engaging in moving a discussion forward. You set up a diary now and a few in the past. You have seen other Joe related blog entries. You make several accusations in this blog and the two comments you put without addressing once the rebuttals we put forward. I even suggested that you look at the other Lamont related entries on MYDD. Yet you do not even acknowledge it or try to disprove what we say.

Just some vague angry comment about how hate filled we are. Specifics. Or get lost. Freedom of speech doesnt have to mean freedom to waste our fucking time even if you are free to do so.

by Pravin on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 04:51:09 AM EST
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"Close minded" Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Why is Joe Lieberman so "close minded" he won't speak out when his friends who endorse him like Ann Coulter call for the "fragging" of congressmen, or the "poisoning" of Supreme Court judges, or the "bombing" of buildings, but calls anyone who won't vote for HIM "terrorists" and "hate-mongers"?

by William Domingo on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 01:33:00 AM EST

Re: "Close minded" Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

He has bashed the likes of Michael Moore with glee on Hannity's show while I have not heard him bash Coulter on Air America or any other non FOX show.

by Pravin on Wed Jul 12, 2006 at 04:47:47 AM EST
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